TC Speaks

Session Start: Fri Apr 07 21:34:22 2000 *** Now talking in #TalkCityLive7 *** Topic is 'Welcome to Talk City Live. The event will start at 6:00pm PST' chatlet=Auditorium Questions=ASKTCLive height=51 Bio=To enter a question for Talk City, enter it here and click SEND i have been designing irc's for alot of differnt servers for the last week other servers survive without going to this extreme I'm sure everyone will work past this anybody remember what happened to anothernet? look folks we have a choice to chat here or not.. they forgot TC needs us chatters to continue Bruce If you choose to chat at TalK City, then you need to use software that we support we can always choose another server i know of a new server and its growing fast it vanished, effectively, after it decided to 'sell' its client and charge for service .. to 'protect' the net Bruce In the same way that you can go to Macdonalds and choose to have a hamburger... thehead, you are so right hi Bruce You can't go to Macdonalds and choose to have a Pepsi, because they don't offer it.... im not into wallpaper....i'm outta here to buy paint lol itsy BRUCE thats blackmail lol sam *** MathLady1 (~MathLady1@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 well its true Bruce YOu can go to another restaurant and drink Pepsi, but you can't get what McDonalds offers *** Cyph (~Cyph@proxy1.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 the funny part is that technically it is it went from a couple thousand users to zip in weeks Good point Bruce! *** Breton_ (~Breton_@proxy16.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Bruce The situation here is similar, and we absolutely are not taking away anyones right to choose *** pOey- (~hi@proxy14.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 hmm.. is there an echo in here? LOL Oh, yes you are in the room I regularly chat in.. used to have up to 50 easy.. but now.. you are lucky to see 10 in there And you can rationalize Bruce ga lol yeah the same way with myroom head there are other fine nets, that keep the spirit of IRC alive .. palacegirl says: do you plan on adding different styles of chats? you use the excuse that you want to stop the abuse....but in the room I frequent we have had a terrible abuser and all the csa and other TC personel said was use the /ignore feature.... And say what you want. But you are force-ffeding us exactly what you think we will swallow that's true, Bruce, but we CHOOSE how we get to McDonald's - we'll use the menu when we're there, but don't tell us how to get to McDonald's and i know of alot of rooms like that *** adk001 (~adk001@proxy5.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Jenna Hmmm, I hope I'm understanding this correctly. *** LIZ-ARD99 (~LIZ-ARD99@proxy5.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 * LIZ-ARD99 has entered #TALKCITYLIVE using the ORIGINAL Jack~n~Jills Best Friends IRC. E-mail Jack__1@webtv.net for your copy. . Jenna I'm thinking you mean other types of chat clients. lmfa lmfao^ Jenna That's what I'm hoping you mean. of all the questions submitted, we're talking about "styles" of chat? Jenna We want to have talk City be as cross-platform as we can. of course sparrow.. they had to cut out all the GOOD questions they mean differnt types of styles for the talkcity irc's Jenna We may not offer the optimal client for every platform... Jenna but we want all platforms to be able to get here. well head..how many times can they answer "Why are you doing this?" LOL Jenna We also are adding other media for chat Jenna such as voice chat *** jessiejanie (~jessiejanie@proxy12.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 eh where can we sample the TC IRC?? Jenna which we have now as part of our home page offering ./ignore | *** The_Watchdog (~The_Watchdog@proxy3.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 hmm Jenna and which we will be adding in other parts of our service, such as clubs they are giving us things we want to hear.. NOT the real reasons for it for those who want clean and family safe chat. open to EVERYONE .. try irc.starlink-irc.org   or irc.castlenet.org .. both are fine little nets where the users and the chatting experience is more important than bureaucracy .. try it you'll like it. Jenna As far as types of topics and programming, we are ALWAYS always looking to yep i thank u can still script anything uwant Jenna provide the most varied and appropriate set of things we can so that people Nice promo, ItsyTC Jenna will always have something new to explore here that addresses their interests Jenna and preferences thanks but no thanks Itsy, I like my home here in TC and I'm sticking around :) well you know what.. in the long run it is totally up to us.. do we continue to chat in TC or leave Jenna and makes it easy to find people like them...or whom they like :-) WHy will TC employees be able to use all banned client servers while they are on duty? Jenna ga Jenna these are canned answers friedman If I may add- we are substantially increasing our engineering resources Ditto Timtam all the way or how about bluetrip.tasam.com "EvilNET" friedman including those working on clients and other features for the service * Cyph doesn't like his home on TC, and moved to irc.linux.com thats a very good server i gotta say that #Slashdot can you use mirc there, cyph? oh yeah.. Evil net sounds like something clean and well lit LOLOL friedman GA Yeah, sauce-eh great !! : ) well there is always CoolChat too *** judy111 (~judy111@proxy1.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Tminus5days^ says: it appears to me that the problems can be solved by stopping users connecting from wingatted computers by just doing a portscan. Why is Talkcity making a move that seems to be causing more disruption than the flooders hey cyph didnt i see you in Zomdienet a couple times? if they want to improve service....fix it so you don't get booted 38 times in 1 hour. we're scouting for a new home : ( after almost four years Jenna ga Bruce *** Scratchy- (~Scratchy-@proxy3.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 Bruce I'm the first to get up and say Wingates are a problem Yes, TigerJ520, I own the place.. and I shut it down :) Bruce At the same time they are not the only problem i agree mike and then tell you it's your phone lines fault why did you shut it down? yep mike *** Scratchy- (~Scratchy-@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Bruce With a large percentage of our attacks coming from WebTV IRC scripts that hyave nothing to do with Wingate 'cause I was getting constant headaches i loved that server geez guys u know ur not gona get rid of attacks like that soon as someone scripts something else its gona be allover the place *** KK10 (~OhNo@proxy11.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 oh attacks?? how many in here have been "attacked"? and why can't you just ban the attackers like you did three years ago? Bruce If Wingate were the only problem, then the approach would be different well ^satan^ made zombienet hehe Bruce And I should add that we have many computer user attacks without using Wingate also Not really, he didn't i mean evilnet^^^^^ not zombienet you don't need a irc to flood a room...webtv can do it with no problems at all Bruce So blocking Wingate access isn't a magic bullet, and won't solve the problems lol I have had chatters flood me off...me personally, not the room either are we going to be banned next? sorry i got them confused lol Bruce As to how much disruption this move is causing... lol mike sigh *** BrittanySez has quit IRC (BrittanySez has left the room) *** pOey- has quit IRC (Timeout) *** corpep (~corpep@proxy16.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** cerobins (~cerobins@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 My opinion: TalkCity isn't going to solve anything by limiting the IRC clients, it's just a matter of days before someone finds a way around it.. * cerobins is using Jenny's Multi Server IRC located at http://members.tripod.com/~jennycox/chat.html Bruce Their is a lot of disruption, every hour of every day... hi cerobins : ) tccc monitors would do there job and take care of things it wouldent have esclatted so far lol yeah cyph Bruce Most users don't see a lot of it, but it is there true cyph *** cerobins (~cerobins@proxy15.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 *** cyndi11 (~cyndi11@proxy1.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 hi cyndi : ) Mpost of it us don't see it, but it is there ive reproted stuff and have gotten shrugged off Bruce So gauging how much disruption we have before this process started is a difficult thing for any users reported i mean i give it about a week after the 12th till we see something three years ago, we had an idiot stalking our room....you were able to ban him from talkcity.....why can't you do the same thing to these idiots?? Hmm... I give it 3 days see what tho TigerJ520 Bruce Also how many people are we inconvenincing here would be an issue see someone beat the irc bann *** cyndi11 has quit IRC (cyndi11) it will happen before then Bruce And I'm sure this will surprise everyone, I know it surprised me this week... *** JCoyote (~LoveNeverFaileth@proxy6.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 hey jc : ) : ) smile lol yeah now he is getting to the main part hey sauce Bruce It turns out that on any given day 7.3% of all our connections come from WebTV users with some sort of IRC script we can only hope tiger this seems pretty extreem natzi style action that s soon to be inplace there are ones who already have installed their files into tcpirch Bruce And it turns out that 4% of our connections come from Comupter users not using EZTalk or TC Pirch lol kk wtf? well...I'm guessing there is absolutely nothing we can do to make any changes...why this forum then?? just to waste our time? uh huh So, since we are a vast minority, no problem now i know that there are more than that Bruce SO we're not making changes that affect a large percentage of our users... a feel-good thing, LIZ-ARD99 talkcity is going to be vacant LIZ exactly yes, you are lol sparrow yes LIZ-ARD99 that is why I doubt that figure No Liz its to try and show you that they are concerned yep LIZ Even if your figures are correct, you are willing to shrug 11.3% of your client base i'm a mirc user.....i hate pirch.....hated the original pirch.....hate this tcpirch crap more so !! and want everyone to understand why man talkcity is gonna b snertcity concerned???? liz,I suspect to try and smooth some ruffled feathers... LIZ-ARD99 Talk City staff are here to help you understand why they are doing what they are doing.........Lets all deal with it cuz we love to chat that's all. nothing will change Bruce but we do recognize that the changes will be difficult for many people, and for those of you affected here it is a big change and a big disruption sauce-eh - agree! with canned questions and answers.. what a way to show your concerns right da speedie Good Point da_speedie_man am a Mac user...and EZtalk stinks Bruce and we know that will make it difficult for you We are all reasonable adults if i wanted to watch commercials.....or read banners.....i'd watch television or surf......not while i'm chatting lol ust wait till all the newbies lean of differnt servers, better servers deal with it??? * da_speedie_man waves to OreoWolf i chat in 3 diff rooms and they have already made rooms on 3 diff servers * theheadsaid1 will be choosing another server hehehe then they will be in trouble i hate the commercials Hiya speedy * OreoWolf waves back Bruce And we're sorry that you will not all enjoy this experience *** princess-snuggles (~Me@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 the commercials stink lol no matter what we say ..it's their ball and if we don't want to play by their rules they're gonna take their ball and go home challenger440sixpack says: Jenna, I know various people that are trying to hack into their IRC's so that they will be able to come into Talkcity with an "illegal" IRC, do you think it can be done? Jenna Well really I'm not the person to answer that question. nothing about enjoying the experience....i won't be here.....i have been for four years...it's been great and now you choose to disrupt it all LOL *** RoIIingStoner (~RoIIingStoner@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 * RoIIingStoner has entered using Thugs Altered iRç HoLLa aT Me iF yo wAnT iT Jenna I take my engineering advice from our staff of engineers. loll i gotta see this Jenna So I'll defer to Bruce. Jenna ga the new web IRC does not have msg boxes Even if your figures are correct, you are willing to shrug 11.3% of your client base i'm a mirc user.....i hate pirch.....hated the original pirch.....hate this tcpirch crap more so !! and want everyone to understand why man talkcity is gonna b snertcity concerned???? liz,I suspect to try and smooth some ruffled feathers... LIZ-ARD99 Talk City staff are here to help you understand why they are doing what they are doing.........Lets all deal with it cuz we love to chat that's all. nothing will change Bruce but we do recognize that the changes will be difficult for many people, and for those of you affected here it is a big change and a big disruption sauce-eh - agree! with canned questions and answers.. what a way to show your concerns right da speedie Good Point da_speedie_man am a Mac user...and EZtalk stinks Bruce and we know that will make it difficult for you We are all reasonable adults if i wanted to watch commercials.....or read banners.....i'd watch television or surf......not while i'm chatting lol ust wait till all the newbies lean of differnt servers, better servers deal with it??? * da_speedie_man waves to OreoWolf i chat in 3 diff rooms and they have already made rooms on 3 diff servers * theheadsaid1 will be choosing another server hehehe then they will be in trouble i hate the commercials Hiya speedy * OreoWolf waves back Bruce And we're sorry that you will not all enjoy this experience *** princess-snuggles (~Me@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 the commercials stink lol no matter what we say ..it's their ball and if we don't want to play by their rules they're gonna take their ball and go home challenger440sixpack says: Jenna, I know various people that are trying to hack into their IRC's so that they will be able to come into Talkcity with an "illegal" IRC, do you think it can be done? Jenna Well really I'm not the person to answer that question. nothing about enjoying the experience....i won't be here.....i have been for four years...it's been great and now you choose to disrupt it all LOL *** RoIIingStoner (~RoIIingStoner@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 * RoIIingStoner has entered using Thugs Altered iRç HoLLa aT Me iF yo wAnT iT Jenna I take my engineering advice from our staff of engineers. loll i gotta see this Jenna So I'll defer to Bruce. Jenna ga the new web IRC does not have msg boxes Bruce <--- reading back Even if your figures are correct, you are willing to shrug 11.3% of your client base i'm a mirc user.....i hate pirch.....hated the original pirch.....hate this tcpirch crap more so !! and want everyone to understand why man talkcity is gonna b snertcity concerned???? liz,I suspect to try and smooth some ruffled feathers... LIZ-ARD99 Talk City staff are here to help you understand why they are doing what they are doing.........Lets all deal with it cuz we love to chat that's all. nothing will change Bruce but we do recognize that the changes will be difficult for many people, and for those of you affected here it is a big change and a big disruption sauce-eh - agree! with canned questions and answers.. what a way to show your concerns right da speedie Good Point da_speedie_man am a Mac user...and EZtalk stinks Bruce and we know that will make it difficult for you We are all reasonable adults if i wanted to watch commercials.....or read banners.....i'd watch television or surf......not while i'm chatting lol ust wait till all the newbies lean of differnt servers, better servers deal with it??? * da_speedie_man waves to OreoWolf i chat in 3 diff rooms and they have already made rooms on 3 diff servers * theheadsaid1 will be choosing another server hehehe then they will be in trouble i hate the commercials Hiya speedy * OreoWolf waves back Bruce And we're sorry that you will not all enjoy this experience *** princess-snuggles (~Me@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 the commercials stink lol no matter what we say ..it's their ball and if we don't want to play by their rules they're gonna take their ball and go home challenger440sixpack says: Jenna, I know various people that are trying to hack into their IRC's so that they will be able to come into Talkcity with an "illegal" IRC, do you think it can be done? Jenna Well really I'm not the person to answer that question. nothing about enjoying the experience....i won't be here.....i have been for four years...it's been great and now you choose to disrupt it all LOL *** RoIIingStoner (~RoIIingStoner@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 * RoIIingStoner has entered using Thugs Altered iRç HoLLa aT Me iF yo wAnT iT Jenna I take my engineering advice from our staff of engineers. loll i gotta see this Jenna So I'll defer to Bruce. Jenna ga the new web IRC does not have msg boxes Bruce <--- reading back Even if your figures are correct, you are willing to shrug 11.3% of your client base i'm a mirc user.....i hate pirch.....hated the original pirch.....hate this tcpirch crap more so !! and want everyone to understand why man talkcity is gonna b snertcity concerned???? liz,I suspect to try and smooth some ruffled feathers... LIZ-ARD99 Talk City staff are here to help you understand why they are doing what they are doing.........Lets all deal with it cuz we love to chat that's all. nothing will change Bruce but we do recognize that the changes will be difficult for many people, and for those of you affected here it is a big change and a big disruption sauce-eh - agree! with canned questions and answers.. what a way to show your concerns right da speedie Good Point da_speedie_man am a Mac user...and EZtalk stinks Bruce and we know that will make it difficult for you We are all reasonable adults if i wanted to watch commercials.....or read banners.....i'd watch television or surf......not while i'm chatting lol ust wait till all the newbies lean of differnt servers, better servers deal with it??? * da_speedie_man waves to OreoWolf i chat in 3 diff rooms and they have already made rooms on 3 diff servers * theheadsaid1 will be choosing another server hehehe then they will be in trouble i hate the commercials Hiya speedy * OreoWolf waves back Bruce And we're sorry that you will not all enjoy this experience *** princess-snuggles (~Me@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 the commercials stink lol no matter what we say ..it's their ball and if we don't want to play by their rules they're gonna take their ball and go home challenger440sixpack says: Jenna, I know various people that are trying to hack into their IRC's so that they will be able to come into Talkcity with an "illegal" IRC, do you think it can be done? Jenna Well really I'm not the person to answer that question. nothing about enjoying the experience....i won't be here.....i have been for four years...it's been great and now you choose to disrupt it all LOL *** RoIIingStoner (~RoIIingStoner@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 * RoIIingStoner has entered using Thugs Altered iRç HoLLa aT Me iF yo wAnT iT Jenna I take my engineering advice from our staff of engineers. loll i gotta see this Jenna So I'll defer to Bruce. Jenna ga the new web IRC does not have msg boxes Bruce <--- reading back i just tried it no they aren't listening As I said guys consider this the Staff tries hard to make sure everyone has a good time chatting only to have it disrupted by people who have far too much free time on their hands and this is programmed baloney they arent going to listen then ban the disrupters !!!! Bruce I don't think anyone at TalK City would be foolish enough to say that we can build a system that can't be hacked consider this a way that they are trying to fix it reminds me of an ad no way roling...that sux!! why can't you ban them?? not all of us??? Bruce There isn't a computer in the world that can't be hacked The bottom line is TC has spoken!!! Oreo, are you being paid by TALK CITY to be here? lol i think they would be foolish enough to say that Nope not at all He must be lol Bruce So, can it be done.... I guess in theory it could be done And Keep in mind I use MIRC sue = sure lol wow Bruce that's quite true *** The_Watchdog has quit IRC (The_Watchdog) *** kiwi8881 (~kiwi888@proxy14.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 true rad...there is nothing we can do except leave..pretty crappy attitude *** kiwi8881 (~kiwi888@proxy14.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 they cant fix it...it will keep happening *** AShuttlePilot (~LadyShuttle_is_my_gi@proxy4.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 LIZ-ARD99, ever heard of the attitude, "I'm in CHARGE" Bruce But by eliminating the vast majority of our disruptions we will be more quickly able to deal with those that are left yep KK *** peeka_boo (~pirch@proxy6.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Not true Liz you can try and come up with idea's and or solutions and send them to someone at talkcity those that are left.....key words yeah RAD..in the military *** CharlieC (~CWCowan@proxy1.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 atleast then your helping to resolve problems there arent going to be any LEFT Bruce So if someone makes an Illegal IRC for WebTV say... see? you guys really don't care if we leave, right?? KK10 thats just it!! Talk City did fix it.....now we all have to deal with the CHANGE.....I mean we are all chatters right? just to be ignored? deal with the CHANGE and move on sauce-eh no they dont care TALKCITY just wants us to view their ads RoIIingStoner, yeah; it's also prevalent in prisons lol illegal irc for webtv? da_speedie_man it isnt fixed try a illegal irc for talkcity yep rad money is the only reason they are changing is that what this is all about ????? the ADs ? Bruce And we find them, because our CSAs will have more time on their hands to work with users it will be easier for us to take action to stop it *** CharlieC (~CWCowan@proxy1.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 *** daphina (~daphina@proxy11.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 Talk City does suck ...sorry yes thehead welcome daphina it'll just take a lil time...i mean hey...ppl can hack intpo the Pentagon i already deleted my account the CSA dont listen now why would they then hello I have a feeling that the CCCs and CSAs are going to be administrating to a whole lot of empty rooms bLiNdRaGe-991 says: Obviously you know alot of people will leave TC as a result of this decision. What are your plans to win them back? lmfao you can say that again bruce thehead, yu got it!!! I think if it was a money issue maybe they would start charging and not just change the IRC situation lol RoIIingStoner I'm sorry you feel that way Liz yes CSA has stopped functiong hey everybody WWW>COOLCHAT>NET!! is that what this is all about ????? the ADs ? * theheadsaid1 agrees with mike592 oooooooo, win us back...this should be a good canned response I have been here since the first days ew, AShuttlePilot *** NashCCC (NashCCC@chat36) has left #TalkCityLive7 that is a strange kettle of fish and you know what? Even though I lose the use of mirc is that what this is all about ????? the ADs ? I still will come here * OreoWolf shrugs me too oreo Jenna Well I'm focusing at the moment is that what this is all about ????? the ADs ? * OreoWolf smiles not me......i love my mirc : ) Jenna on trying to keep as many of them from leaving as I can but OreoWolf what to start all over oh wow, hiya oreowolf, LTNS i think so TRUEFANS...that was the 1st ? they responded to *** sneaky_N_MO (~sneaky_N_MO@proxy16.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 am going to look for other sites Jenna But assuming that some of them will leave for various good reasons they have so just convert your popups OreoWolf, you use Mirc. How do you feel about giving it up *** SigmaCCC (SigmaCCC@chat36) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** SigmaCCC sets mode: +q SigmaCCC thats what I'm doing oh ok thanks :O) Oreo, enjoy chatting to yourself then * OreoWolf shrugs I do not like the canned browsers *** mike592 (~mike592@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 *** VerucaSalt (~OompaLoompa@proxy5.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Jenna I hope that we can continue to talk with our users, listen to what they're saying why should i convert when i have done no wrong???? chat clients are a dime a dozen what about msg boxes OREO?? *** AShuttlePilot (~LadyShuttle_is_my_gi@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 I don't really care what client I'm using.. it's the server that's important * da_speedie_man welcomes SigmaCCC :-) Jenna and make improvements that they need and want SOME?? By what I understand.. it will be the majority TCpirch is the pitts im sorry I love ircle hey da_speedie_man ; ) * jcalp waits TCpirch bites *** jcalp (~jcalp@proxy11.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Jenna For example, there are certain games folks who have tried our IRC client for PCs we grew up together after 10 min i have a headache * daphina observes lol jc : ) Jenna and they just feel that they cannot use it for their game at this point *** mike592 (~mike592@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 Jenna They are leaving and they have explained this to me in an extremely thoughtful letter smile tcpirch dont suport netscape and some caNT USE IE Jenna and I am very sorry to see them go it is like they are splitting our chat families apart adn they honestly dont care Jenna What we need to do is hear what it is they need, what folks need in general mirc *** NashCCC (NashCCC@chat32) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** NashCCC sets mode: +o NashCCC Jenna and do our best to improve our clients to take these things into account ggood point head Jenna In some cases these may be simple things that we can do easily Yep we all grew up together *** NashCCC (NashCCC@chat32) has left #TalkCityLive7 i agree with theheadsaid1 *** SigmaCCC (SigmaCCC@chat36) has left #TalkCityLive7 and I'm gonna be here till I'm old and gray unbelievable at an "official" TC meeting I still get booted...LOL *** KaRLa` (~KaRLa@proxy5.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 heh Jenna In other cases they may be things that we just can't do we don't want the new clients *** RoIIingStoner (~RoIIingStoner@proxy15.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 now ppl are goping to may ways we like the old ones Jenna But we need to listen and try to improve and change when we can *** NashCCC (NashCCC@chat32) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** NashCCC sets mode: +o NashCCC depending on the number of people that leave?? will tc change its mind and go back to what we have today? i have been going to one room for the year ive been on webtv and now this *** CarD has quit IRC (Lost Connection 233) Jenna and "keep the light on" as someone on my staff said the other day i dont know what everyone is gona do *** mike592 (~mike592@proxy15.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 * da_speedie_man waves at NashCCC Jenna so that maybe they'll decide to come back and join us again what need to be taken into account is the fact when theres troubles when a csa is msg for help they dont show up thats why is so much troubles with disruptive ppl Jenna Many of them say, even as they're leaving... is there any "contract" that says WebTV has to default to TalkCity??? Why can't we have a choice?? * NashCCC waves back to da_speedie_man Jenna that they would much rather stay because we try to keep things nice here thats cause they are overburdened with calls Sneaky we do lizard with all the flooders Jenna because they appreciate the cleaner streets and the effort put into them Bruce, you are using IRCLE now. Why? Don't youlike TC pirch? yes Jenna Jenna so they may come back at some point, and we will be delighted to have them Jenna ga friedman I'd like to add something here.... essentially try some of that convincing now - a plea for the "family" *** qdawg16 (~qdawg16@proxy13.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 but sneaky.. they are still going to have that.. but they are losing the good ppl that have chatted here more than a yr *** ladymw1 (~x@proxy3.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 there are many things about TalkCity which are nice friedman many of you were here when we started Talk City - 4 years ago *** Bethers32 (~Bethers32@proxy4.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 but the default is to TC...when you come in the community ...the only option I see is TC * sneaky_N_MO knows all about host   and when u call constantly for 25+ minutes thats un call for friedman some of you came over to this service from the eWorld service we began at Apple some have been here longer than a year perhaps talkcity should re examine its selection process in selecting tcc"s as well *** qdawg16 (~qdawg16@proxy13.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Yep ah yes *** Tess- (~MeMyselfAndI@proxy1.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 friedman at that time we all had to let go of the features we were used to on eWorld (and AOL like service but yep daphina hey daphina : ) e-world *** ItsyTC (~itsy@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 hi sauce hey when you go to community look around and you will see a button that says "go to" on the page *** beaches94 (~tidepools@proxy12.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 and to answer a previous question, Yes I work here at Talk City, no I dont have any decision making capability and am here right now as a normal chatter friedman with the clean well lighted community feel that we all know in Talk City *** baybcakes (~990196625@proxy12.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 friedman it wasn't easy for a lot of people hiyas daphina ok tiger hi well now you are talkcity not something else friedman but we all did it, because we wanted i have friedman a special place on the Internet but unless you know where to go...you dont have a choice... friedman we started then with just abotu 5,000 people who came over from eWorld that should let you access other servers so daphina ...you sitting with sauce and me? *Bruce* VERSION i dont know other chat places to go to [Bruce VERSION Response]: Ircle 3.0.4 US PPC 02/08/1999 03:40:04 AM. I hate the new tcpirch it wont be special much longer #248E0356084 CF15D035 *** Bethers32 (~Bethers32@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Bruce, why are you not using TC pirch? oh ummmm friedman and since then Talk City has grown to over 6.5 Million people every month - almost 8 Million hours of chatting a month me too Lady ! lol or standing as the case maybe so do i ladymw1 Ciera1 he is on a MAC friedman and because of how we did it, including the participation of many of the people in this event today *** kiwi8881 (~kiwi888@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 I am going to have to switch to dalnet or chatnet or efnet or something LOL Ciera.. cuz they alrady know how bad it is I know that want me to send you some lizard? * daphina sighs......u are a lucky man jcoyote.....me on one side and sauce on the other....men would kill for that honor friedman we've been able to keep it a special place - clean well lighted But under TC changes, MAC users will no longer be supported lol daphina : ) friedman a real sense of relationships and community lol e-world *** ItsyTC (~itsy@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 hi sauce hey when you go to community look around and you will see a button that says "go to" on the page *** beaches94 (~tidepools@proxy12.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 and to answer a previous question, Yes I work here at Talk City, no I dont have any decision making capability and am here right now as a normal chatter friedman with the clean well lighted community feel that we all know in Talk City *** baybcakes (~990196625@proxy12.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 friedman it wasn't easy for a lot of people hiyas daphina ok tiger hi well now you are talkcity not something else friedman but we all did it, because we wanted i have friedman a special place on the Internet but unless you know where to go...you dont have a choice... friedman we started then with just abotu 5,000 people who came over from eWorld that should let you access other servers so daphina ...you sitting with sauce and me? *Bruce* VERSION i dont know other chat places to go to [Bruce VERSION Response]: Ircle 3.0.4 US PPC 02/08/1999 03:40:04 AM. I hate the new tcpirch it wont be special much longer #248E0356084 CF15D035 *** Bethers32 (~Bethers32@proxy4.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 Bruce, why are you not using TC pirch? oh ummmm friedman and since then Talk City has grown to over 6.5 Million people every month - almost 8 Million hours of chatting a month me too Lady ! lol or standing as the case maybe so do i ladymw1 Ciera1 he is on a MAC friedman and because of how we did it, including the participation of many of the people in this event today *** kiwi8881 (~kiwi888@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 I am going to have to switch to dalnet or chatnet or efnet or something LOL Ciera.. cuz they alrady know how bad it is I know that want me to send you some lizard? * daphina sighs......u are a lucky man jcoyote.....me on one side and sauce on the other....men would kill for that honor friedman we've been able to keep it a special place - clean well lighted But under TC changes, MAC users will no longer be supported lol daphina : ) friedman a real sense of relationships and community lol I can't use it like this friedman it's special because of all the people that care and participate - your time, your energy, your caring I've used tc for 2 years but this is crazy * daphina realizes that the majority o ppl dislike change...however so many in tc are opposed...have the powers that be considered leaving well enough alone? me to cyph friedman your interaction with each other exactly cyph *** beaches94 has quit IRC (....and the tide gently rolls out) of course we love it here !!! but you're treating the good people like we're the problem * theheadsaid1 doesnt think TC will be very popular after April 11th i have irc's set to a bunch of other servers friedman surely that interaction rises above the changes from eWorld to Talk CIty c the thing is why should we have to have the tcpirch we arent the abusers I lived in TC for the past 2 years...I'm going to miss it...I wish I had a choice to stay.... It's a good question daphina *** kiwi8881 (~kiwi888@proxy15.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 get rid of the abusers not the ppl here to have fun friedman from the initial Talk City chat (Global Chat) to the java clients and web tv clients friedman and IRC clients this is an official response I'm going to miss it too friedman from those to what wer'e doing now it really is ashame friedman It's like a family oh stuff the canned responses.....speak from the heart are these real CCCs or bots? grrrrrrr friedman we have to make changes from time to time to help *** jp021 (~jp02@proxy1.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 friedman the whole family work but I hate being told I HAVE to use Internet Explorer yes friedman Byeee :) they are bots and tc continues to laugh at us *** Cyph (~Cyph@proxy1.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 and I HAVE to see all the flashing ads we are like a family friedman we don't want and really can't stand the idea that some family members might leave us over this * daphina agress with jcoyote am taping this for my confressman exactly Coyote friedman and to some extent we're begging you to stay lol jp : ) and he isnt listening to us at all friedman not for $ reasons, but because you care and are part of this how I????? and we want to stay nope : ( It's private business jp021 and its a business decision friedman just keep working with us to build the special place yep Coyote and they have torn our family apart we do want to stay * TigerJ520 lmfao not for $ reasons friedman the let us keep our own irc rofl tiger how are you going to get us to stay??? *** KaRLa` (~KaRLa@proxy5.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 friedman and we´ll keep working on that and the software features too we do care... I want a status screen to show on my monitor pay us? *** spyral (~spyral@proxy14.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 rofl liz not Las Vegas for goodness sakes tape is rolling for my attorney also LOL! friedman and if you can't stay with us, we hope you'll take the special aspects of this Talk City and spread them to where you go }:)~~ oh, don't worry....we'll spread the good word....heil hitler LIZ-ARD99 they wont keep us the way they are going friedman we really believe in what we're doing and we hope you will believe enough to stay * daphina dislikes being patronized this is crap I like hearing that ircle will be included with a port special aspects???? friedman or if not, to take the idea with you lol sauce * sneaky_N_MO knows of at least 50 ppl that boycotting tc and the numbers are climbing i think they should   consider other options not an extreme one ;lmfao suace I tried it friedman and ultimately, if you leave - come back to us special aspects?? you mean us the chatters??? *** Kaileen24 (~Kaileen24@proxy12.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 I don't like it at all i know kk...i'll b outta here friedman because we are your family, or at least we strive to be i think that is what everyone wants is to have their friedman GA I dont think so friedman i wonder if he has this typed already and isnt listenin *** DTerminator (~terminator99@proxy16.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 browser included msg ASKTCLive hello r u there' I will not be able to stay even though I wish I could Jenna I want to say a couple things too... *** Kaileen24 (~Kaileen24@proxy12.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 LIZ-ARD99 same here FRIEDMAN does TC care that more than nearly 11, 000 people have signed a petition asking them not do make this change? that's sad, lady : ( but there are other servers out there....... Jenna there's a question back here we didn't get to that remarks that I (Jenna) can't be saying these things lol sam you have no choice......but wait.....this is the year 2000, isn't it?? and my friends and I have decided to leave *** Swifty_ (~Swifty_@proxy16.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 Jenna because I'm not a chatter. *** LITE-HEADED (~LITE-HEADED@proxy3.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** AllisonJane (~AllisonJane@proxy14.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 Jenna Wrong :-) guess not i say we throw baby cakes out,, she is disrupting *** Swifty_ (~Swifty_@proxy16.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 heck most of mine have left Jenna Those of you who know me, and I'm sure there are couple of you out there... * TigerJ520 lol Jenna please spread the word that I am a huge chatter, and always have been Jenna that Peter is a chatter *** SauceeWillow (~SauceeWillow@proxy11.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 This has been a tremendous waste of my time we're all huge chatters friedman (every week) Jenna that many many of Talk City's corporate employees are chatters I can't believe I went thru all the trouble of downloading a new browser, and the new irc....... * daphina does not want to be be :" huge" /e yeah but what rooms???? lmfao for a horrible product rofl daphina whatya think talkcity.. throw her out..?.. but we dont matter Jenna Jenna and all the employees are required Jenna to train as chatters :-) Jenna We love chat ! lol yes no we want to be small but talkative Love this rofl if you dont like her,, ide throw her out.. you have the power Jenna I also want to say that I am well aaware that chatting with a purely text client is not the lol they really, really dont care i chat an average of 5 ours a dy (no life here)..and i will miss every one ...but if this happens im outtie Jenna same as chatting wiht a java client to train as chatters??? oh please.. we do that with OUT training Jenna and that ads sometimes slow things down sob if you love chat talk to us..not at us Jenna But my dream is not about software rof liz figures they wouldn't get to my question Jenna my conception is that the common conventions of courtesy that apply off line Jenna in real life a }:)~ yawn what is this it Jenna and make our lives pleasant and beautiful They didn't get to any of the ones I sent in, either Jenna should also apply ON line I think so KK Jenna and can connect us to each other in pleasant and beautiful ways. tell that to my visa company lkcity ummmm lol sauce * daphina assumes the lotus postion....ohhhmmmmmm lmfao what a joke Jenna In order to provide such a capability rofl *** LITE-HEADED (~LITE-HEADED@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 rofl daphina Jenna we need to have a business that supports it go daphina oh i wonder if they will fix that prob when you talk in the webtv made irc that when you chat for a while it shuts off the web HEY JENNNA Jenna We can't just dream it up and do it for free. *** Chu2U (~LikeWhoCares@proxy15.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 here we go about the sponsers * samduck snores Jenna We appreciate your support when you can give it. $$$$ ?? Jenna We appreciate your contributions always. this reminds me of firesign theater yeah tiger lolol Jenna We hope you will stay. Hey! Hi Head!! Jenna Thanks so much for coming. *** radEkalJCD (~angelee44@proxy14.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7br> Jenna ga friedman ( we are on a "mission from Jenna" to get every person in the world to chat online) :-) * daphina thinks she may have fouond nirvana right here in tc Anways Aussie_Ash says: Simple question, if I were to install YOUR client, and it doesn't work, or crashes my PC or has problems - WHO will support me? With other public software, there are people and places to go and turn to for help.... when the principal is making the speech for the high school Later all Hey Tess-!!!!!!!!! Take care * OreoWolf waves Webtv always shuts off on its own LoL don't EVEN blame TC hahahaha and they are cutting up in the background lol Bruce OK, thats a good question Fancy meeting you here Head!!! LOL why arent they answering me ? so i guess JENNA had her say and that was it they didn't expect that question, true LOL TEss.. I know it!!! Bruce TalK City has a large support department TRUEFAN56 they arent listening *** OreoWolf (~OreoWolf@proxy6.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 no time for the popup : ) LOL Bruce And we offer 24 hour support online in the TalK City Help Chat room i say.. throw him out.. i dont like the client he is using.. i noticed lol *** TRUEFAN56 (~TRUEFAN56@proxy15.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 throw I out!!!!!! lol jp Bruce Which of course won't help those people who can't get their software to work yea right 24 hours after you have a problem.. they will addreess it throw him out!!! you know the way this is being conducted where's that ignore button? i dont like him Bruce We also offer email support, right on our web site so...where are we going with this discussion??? if then theheadsaid1 lmfao *** OneHotGirl4U_2 (~OneHotGirl4U_2@proxy14.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 *** BabyPanther (~Me@proxy16.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 is symptomatic of the problem we are discussing NO WHERE TRUE KK.. LOL NO WHERE as of april 13.. he is out of hewre!!!!!! they are not listening hahaha * daphina listens to jcoyote can we use pop ups in here? if then Bruce So there are places to turn to for help that we provide THEY DONT LISTEN...TONITE PROVES IT they are not interacting with us EXACTLY Thats True KK not responding true Chu *** ladymw1 (~x@proxy3.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 I . i dont like you or your server.. Bruce, I am looking at the minutes from a staff meeting, or what is purported to be minutes from a staff meeting, where you say, and I quote " We have talked about how Talk City is not about chat, it is baout providing the tools to enable people to commnicate with each other." In view of that statement, how do you justify preventing people from chosing their means to communicate? * sneaky_N_MO in all fairness two week notice isnt long enough for ppl to prepare should do like businesses do a 30 day notice to prepare so get out *** Tess- (~MeMyselfAndI@proxy1.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7 good question!! good question!! *** Nebulas (~Nebulas@proxy11.talkcity.com) has joined #TalkCityLive7 I SHOULD HAVE BELIEVED EVERYONE IN THE CHAT ROOM THAT ME COMING IN HERE WOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE Bruce In relation to this change that we are making... ciera, woohooo yu go girl WONT^^^ damn red light Chu they are supposed to be takin our questions but they arent Bruce Many people are asking where they can get more information... hello ok ive heard enough rofl /ignore red light Bruce can you read this? I.. you are banned as of april 13th well, i'm logging this : ) Hello room, whats up?? Do you hear me? Bruce We have a web page with information and frequently asked questions NO they aren't Coyote...they just wanna vent so it can go on the proper pages *** Nebulas (~Nebulas@proxy11.talkcity.com) has left #TalkCityLive7